Monday, April 26, 2010

Jesus Christ as Kalki

There was something interesting while browsing a Hindu board that came up:

"I have been wondering something for quite some time. The "kalki avatar" is supposed to come at the end of this age to restore peace to the world. He is seen riding a white horse and having a blazing sword in his hand. In the bible, in the book of Revelation - chapter 19 I believe, Jesus Christ is also seen riding a white horse and having a sharp sword. So my question is will Jesus Christ be the anticipated "kalki avatar?"

"If yes, I see a big problem. If Jesus Christ is "kalki" then only Christians can go to heaven and be saved from hell-fire. What will happen to all the non-christians such as Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, etc. Will they be condemned to hell for eternity because they did not believe Jesus was the Son of God and died for their sins? Then God would not be fair right? What do y'all think?"




Christ as Kalki?  The parallel has been explored before.  Kalki is a Messianic Figure in Hinduism.  Kalki is an avatar or incarnation of Vishnu that is supposed to come at the end of the Kali Yuga and wipe out the evil that is on the face of the Earth.  Jesus Christ as the Messiah is what Christians know and believe, and Messianic Jews (a faction in Judaism that has been gaining a lot of attention and is growing) have come to realize.

There are some striking parallels between Kalki and the Messiah.  For instance:
* Both would be preceded and accompanied by Fire.
* Both used the White Horse symbolism.
* Both will defeat Evil.
* One of the preceeding signs is great wickedness.

All of the Signs preceeding the Second Coming are these:

  • Latter-day wickedness (*)
  • Holy Spirit ceasing to strive with wicked
  • Peace taken from earth (*)
  • Angels now reaping the earth
  • Wars and rumors of wars (*)
  • Famines, depressions, and economic turmoil (*)
  • Apostate darkness covers earth (*)
  • Many false churches (*)
  • Refusal of men to believe signs of times (*)
  • Signs on earth and heavens (*)
  • Lamanites to blossom as the rose (*)
  • The gathering at Adam-ondi-Ahman
  • Final great war
  • Sorrow and fear (*)
  • Fall of the great and abominable church
  • Special mission in Jerusalem of two latter-day prophets

As for Kalki:

I can't find any right now. :(

But to answer the question of the Hindu who asked.  Christ will save the more righteous of the people.  This means all people: Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Muslim, Christian, Pagan, Wiccan, Shinto -- all who are righteous and follow the Spirit or the teachings of their good and just ministers of their faith, will be saved. :)

So there is no need to worry.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

According to some , the four horsemen precede the second coming, therefore, none of them are the Christos. Christos, the Lamb, is opening the seals while the visions of the horsemen are revealed, therefore the Lamb can't be any of the horsemen.

The rider of the white horse is mistaken for the Christos, but he is not but an impostor. Take in mind this rider, just as the other riders, is given a right, in his case the right to conquer.

The Christos doesn't need to be given any right to conquer, as he has already triumphed over death (death is another horsemen, you see). There are also differences in how the white horsemen in Revelation 6 is described, opposed to the Christ in Revelation 19. Not to speak about etymological nuances of the different kinds of crowns they wear.

amy said...

hey there, i totally understand what your saying.
if you look at it in a way, all religions seem connected in a way. i feel they all depict the same person, or event, just in a different way. there must be just one god, who is called different things. and i think you have one thing confused.
when you say Hindu's believe that "kalki" is Jesus. i think you have a misconception
i am a devoted christian but,
Hindu scriptures date about 2000 years before the bible was created.
so i believe you should re state your statement as christians believe that kalki is actually christ.
it is already writen 2000 years in the veda's before the bible that this man with a horse and knife will come.
so please, understand your facts properly, and then write.
don't write with religious biases in mind.
who ever is right, it doens't matter because if the saviour is actually god then, he/she should have the courtesy to save all religions. saving one religion and not the other, is no different than discrimination. if "jesus" or kalki is the real god, then the results should only be based on whether you have been a good human being.

Anonymous said...

I believe? there are is a presence of such a phenomenom as "borrowing". It's not a secret that people would cross borders and travel, even in those times, hence perceiving new knowledge, historic or linguistic, cultural, customs and so forth..... and we know that apostles we travelling, as well, spreading the word of thruth, so someone from asian part just perceived this knowledge and transformed it into that form, which will easily accepted by the people, who grew in specific kind of cu;ture, traditions, with their certain believes and mode of life.this is it. So there are NO 2 gods, there is 1 (Jesus), seen/perceived in different ways, basing on the knowledge that has been "travelled"/spread across the different countries.

Unknown said...

If Jesus is Kalki then, according to bible when he is expected to come to the earth? According to Hinduism we have to wait more than 300,000 years more.

If Jesus is Vishnu avatar, then it is against Christianity and all Christians should get converted to Hinduism.

Anonymous said...

I started life as an earnest Christian in the West and then immigrated to India where I have studied the Hindu scriptures for many years. One of the things that has struck me is that people are mistaken if they think that they can take the superficial meanings of scripture as literally true and complete. There are many hidden meanings in scripture that were known by all in the past, but gradually, the method of obtaining these hidden meanings from the Sanskrit texts has disappeared. As I am not a Sanskrit scholar, I would not like to chance giving my own interpretations. But as a general statement, I believe that Hinduism and Christianity have many ancient connections and that Jesus and Kalki are the same being. I recently read an account of the 'mahaprakash' of Caitanya Mahaprabhu in Bengal. During this incident Mahaprabhu revealed himself to his devotees in whatever form the devotee worshipped i.e. some saw him as Narasimha, some as Ram, some as Krishna etc. In the same way, when Jesus/Kalki comes, he will reveal himself as Jesus to the Christians, Kalki to the Hindus, etc. God is One and in fact, all the religions of the world have a common base. I believe that the vast number of years that are said to be left before the coming of Kalki is in fact a coded figure. My personal belief is that we are now in the last days, and it is possible that Kalki/Jesus is already on the earth. From a scientific, political and dharmik point of view (i.e. dharma has disappeared in large parts of the world), the world is headed for imminent disaster. I believe that the Kalki/Jesus avatar is a compassionate avatar and will endeavour to save as many people as possible from the oncoming destruction through widespread preaching of God's Name and glories. All the scriptures of the world preach the sanctity of God's Name and whatever Name people use to call upon God, he will answer. Just as Krishna destroyed the Kurus by glancing on them while acting as Arjun's charioteer, so Kalki will destroy the evil and debauched powers - not by violence - but by his glance. In fact, just as the Yadavas self-detroyed each other at the end of Krishna lila, so the powerful and degraded rulers of the world will self-destroy each other at the end of this Age. The time is ripe and many of the prophecies listed in this article have already been fulfilled. Its an interesting topic and these are just a few of my 'educated guesses'.

Charith said...

You are seeing materialistic part of Lord Vishnu..what he said in Bhagavad Gita is that it is the sole that matters....So incarnation is the soul of the God not God himself....So that doesn't matter if its Lord Vishnu or Jesus

Unknown said...

Vishnu is the god of stabilization (Preservers). He would oppose chaotic changes in life.
Vishnu is the only god who reincarnates and thus enables us to have many kinds of life styles
Vishnu is made of both automatic and manual forces in equal magnitude and gives us the ability to do two things at the same time.
Vishnu gives the ability to think and act with equal ease.
It is at the stage of Vishnu that an idea becomes an action and an action becomes an idea.
Vishnu makes all the ideas and activities of our life compatible among themselves.
Being the central of the seven basic Hindu gods Vishnu gives us a glimpse of six other gods. Thus, Vishnu is often considered as the supreme Hindu god.
Vishnu is the purifier of life. Vishnu symbolizes water. Thus, we symbolically immerse ash, Vinayaka and Durga idols into water

Unknown said...

kalki will come not jesus. lord vishnu take 24 incaration in different yugas and tell me how many times jesus incarate.how jesus comes from india as in kalki avataar how??? what the rubbish is this jesus power have limits but lord vishnu power have no limits he is immortal
not like jesus. second comming of jesus is rubbish human can not take incaration l

jesus christ is the incaration of lord vishnu

ഇൽയാസ് ഇർഫാനി said...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki_Avatar_Aur_Muhammad_Saheb&ved=2ahUKEwjlnYXTrcfyAhUIzDgGHYMNA6YQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3PHHXFIhpMF0MGDHduo-uL&cshid=1629729025984

Lynda Layton-Cruz said...

I Have Never Seen
So Many Ignorant Comments
In One Thread!

Anonymous said...

There is a connection between all religions like isaac son of abraham is to christianity so is ishmael son of abraham to islam.its interesting to see where one puts hinduism.

Anonymous said...

Whoever deny christ as son of god will goto hell? Only Muslims does that. I never seen a Hindu saying christ is not son of god. They even have beleives he's a god in human form. Since christ does come as human which is similar to Hinduism gods they came in avatars. So jews and Muslims deny this thing they can't be human right they believe ... Christ mostly talked about spirit and there is trinity of Father son and holy spirit as well compared same as Hinduism trinity. Just titles are different of person. Noone see who's father but only jesus saw it... What if his father is vishnu? Or Shiva? He said praise God in human avatar by believing in son that son means (jesus) the way krishna said remember me when u die. What if Krishna would have said himself as son belive me as son of god or father(God) Hinduism was old peoples weren't that smart. But in Jesus time everyone know what is blasphemy is that reason Jesus never said i am god directly but said indirectly? First God of abrahamic religion broke came into human avatar as hindu god did so what if so what if he was spirit of vishnu came to only Israelite? Because no hindu god was in Israel. Since god is spirit can be everywhere. Jesus said my father works everyday and i will work as well. What is his father work? Why he said i have to work. Is it means spirit is working. And those spirit was avatars of vishnu shiva as Rama, krishna i mean yes there are imposter Gods as well in hindu but i truly believe vishnu all avatar was truly pure God. And Jesus is the one who went to Israel from that same God diety. When we go heaven we won't see krishna, Jesus together? There will be one God which one will it be? Which one avatar its a mystery. If hindus had many millions god. Why not a single god of them or new avatar is still with us today? I know we waiting for jesus and kalki both might be same kalki will come to kill demon and his followers ans jesus will come tk defeat the antichrist. And according to hindu we don't know who is demon. But if Christianity jesus is kalki. Then the demon for Hindus god will be Imam mahdi coming with false jesus christ an imposter which is only prophet... There's only one religion who kills others and if imam mahdi arrive he will kill everyone who deny islam. They will break jizya tax. So if why Muslims u think which is pure which is not terrorist which is nice is just waiting for imam mahdi once he's here we're done. We'll have war but they population power of Arab countries today the spreading of islam today is very serious. The rise of Muslims is getting faster and faster i live in Muslim society always afraid if a jihad Muslim will come and kill us. We're non Muslim. Anyway if kalki will come after imam mahdi almost kill half third of non Muslims. Because many will convert andnjoin war to behead or kill. So if kalki and jesus is same then they're going for Muslim saviour imam mahdi the antichrist and demon names Muhammad. When we see work or God is spreading love this is what jesus did and krishna ram did they can be same spirit since jesus didn't spoke moee about vishnu why would he? He said i am father(vishnu). Example American know water as water, Indian know as soon as Jala or paani but both all of them are same not different. So vishnu is title. Father is title, Jesus said to jews your God is killer and my god father is not that. Your father is liar killer devil hr only speak lies for his benefit. Wasn't hr talking about jews god yahweh who sacrifice blood and all? Okay so if jesus was saying his father is not that yahweh then it is so suspicious to cause we still don't know who is father of jesus if he's not yahweh then probably he might be shiva or vishnu? Man again jesus said my father working all time was it mean he is there in different body as different name working such as jesus in Israel, krishna in dwarka India,. Think again. Or we can say God is one but he always come in different form body.

Anonymous said...

It is the other way around! If Jesus Christ is the jalki avatar, then hindus can stop following their religion and follow Jesus as now they know Jesus is the Saviour

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